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		<title>By: Glory Douthitt</title>
		<link>http://codepink.org/blog/2009/03/is-shoe-throwing-a-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-7641</link>
		<dc:creator>Glory Douthitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 23:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SPC GILLEN, MARK</title>
		<link>http://codepink.org/blog/2009/03/is-shoe-throwing-a-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-2613</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC GILLEN, MARK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah...it should not be illegal to throw anything at public speakers... is it illegal to throw an apple? or a tomato? no... but there are some things u just dont do... for instance, threaten the president of the United States of America. he&#039;s damn lucky all he got was 3 years and even still thats 3 years maximum. whether he serves three years or not it seems just to me. and if you knew anything about iraqi culture youd know that it is rude to show your feet to ppl because the ground is so disgusting and showing your heel to someone is considered rude because its almost as if saying you are above them. what that jounalist did is outrageous but it proves a point that we DID liberate iraq at least somewhat because that sort of behavior was never tolerated before. ppl died for that prior to us getting there actually ppl died for less... so do i think his punishment is just? you bet. but im glad for him because now he has the power to express his views and be heard. and he&#039;ll pay the consequences for his choices rather than be punished without a choice. thats what America&#039;s all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah&#8230;it should not be illegal to throw anything at public speakers&#8230; is it illegal to throw an apple? or a tomato? no&#8230; but there are some things u just dont do&#8230; for instance, threaten the president of the United States of America. he&#8217;s damn lucky all he got was 3 years and even still thats 3 years maximum. whether he serves three years or not it seems just to me. and if you knew anything about iraqi culture youd know that it is rude to show your feet to ppl because the ground is so disgusting and showing your heel to someone is considered rude because its almost as if saying you are above them. what that jounalist did is outrageous but it proves a point that we DID liberate iraq at least somewhat because that sort of behavior was never tolerated before. ppl died for that prior to us getting there actually ppl died for less&#8230; so do i think his punishment is just? you bet. but im glad for him because now he has the power to express his views and be heard. and he&#8217;ll pay the consequences for his choices rather than be punished without a choice. thats what America&#8217;s all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
		<link>http://codepink.org/blog/2009/03/is-shoe-throwing-a-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-1608</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Code Pink,

Thanks for deleting my last post.  I guess you wouldn&#039;t want anyone reading this site to get an opposing opinion.  I mean you fought so hard for years to get power.  Now it is your turn and you should not even have to be exposed to differing points of view, especially ones that bring some logic and fact to your emotional and irrational argument that assaulting a person should not result in punishment.

Some people really wanted change, I guess you just wanted the chance to do exactly what you accuse Bush of doing.</description>
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<p>Thanks for deleting my last post.  I guess you wouldn&#8217;t want anyone reading this site to get an opposing opinion.  I mean you fought so hard for years to get power.  Now it is your turn and you should not even have to be exposed to differing points of view, especially ones that bring some logic and fact to your emotional and irrational argument that assaulting a person should not result in punishment.</p>
<p>Some people really wanted change, I guess you just wanted the chance to do exactly what you accuse Bush of doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
		<link>http://codepink.org/blog/2009/03/is-shoe-throwing-a-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-1591</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost all of you are wrong.  

Throwing your shoes at someone is an attack, not &quot;speech.&quot;  I cannot throw my shoes at you as you walk down the street, you would have me arrested or committed.  Not that it matters, you are all reacting to this as if it happened in America.  What we wanted was for Iraq to be able to govern itself, and now it can.  Quit projecting your Bush hate on the Iraqi justice system.

If you all started viewing the world objectively, maybe people would take your group seriously.

Naba Hamid, I don&#039;t think you truly understand the situation in your country before 2003 or now.  

Grilo D, your arguments not based in any sort of fact, he was not attacked by Bush (in fact, HE attacked Bush). Acting on strong emotion is not a defense for attacking another person.  For a non-socio-path, strong emotion is actually a requirement for a human to attack another human.  Bush certainly is not an Invader, as the legitimate and legal government of Iraq not only desires but required US presence in their country to maintain security.

Meredith B, you should just keep to yourself, or at least be much more careful when you state your opinion.  Not that I don&#039;t support your right to free speech, but you managed to make no sense in your first sentence and then attack the wrong person in your only other sentence.

I would certainly welcome any logical arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost all of you are wrong.  </p>
<p>Throwing your shoes at someone is an attack, not &#8220;speech.&#8221;  I cannot throw my shoes at you as you walk down the street, you would have me arrested or committed.  Not that it matters, you are all reacting to this as if it happened in America.  What we wanted was for Iraq to be able to govern itself, and now it can.  Quit projecting your Bush hate on the Iraqi justice system.</p>
<p>If you all started viewing the world objectively, maybe people would take your group seriously.</p>
<p>Naba Hamid, I don&#8217;t think you truly understand the situation in your country before 2003 or now.  </p>
<p>Grilo D, your arguments not based in any sort of fact, he was not attacked by Bush (in fact, HE attacked Bush). Acting on strong emotion is not a defense for attacking another person.  For a non-socio-path, strong emotion is actually a requirement for a human to attack another human.  Bush certainly is not an Invader, as the legitimate and legal government of Iraq not only desires but required US presence in their country to maintain security.</p>
<p>Meredith B, you should just keep to yourself, or at least be much more careful when you state your opinion.  Not that I don&#8217;t support your right to free speech, but you managed to make no sense in your first sentence and then attack the wrong person in your only other sentence.</p>
<p>I would certainly welcome any logical arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Naba Hamid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naba Hamid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a woman from Iraq. My soul and spirit are deeply wounded and traumatized by occupation and the destruction of my country by America.

I believe you Americans heard about the event of hurl a pair of shoes on the face of Bush by Muntazar the journalist, but this man is a human being as well please don&#039;t forget that.

 What you heard is only part of the story. Through your media you will never get the whole picture. You know only a tiny part &quot;the overt story&quot; but the covert story of the war crimes, occupation and destruction of a state and traumatizing millions of people constitute the bulk of the story. 
It is a black spot and stigma in the repetition of America.

I will tell you the hidden part of the shoe story!
Muntazar as an Iraqi suffered a lot from the shameful strategist of America in handling Iraq after toppling Saddam&#039;s regime, bad security, and harsh destruction of the country. Muntazar as an Iraqi has observed rivers of blood in the streets of Baghdad, more than million Iraqi were killed, two million widow women, about five million orphans, five million refugees, hundred thousands of best professionals and scholars were either killed, kidnapped or fled the country, loss of basic needs and many more!
 
Muntazer himself was kidnapped few months ago and his family had to pay ransom for getting him back to life.
	
Bush and his administration come to Iraq at any time they want and not necessarily by invitation or with the consent of the Government of Iraq. 
 What a moment?  Muntazer the victim finds him self face to face with his  executioner! Hearing the arrogance and provocation when Bush said:
&quot;I took the war resolution on Iraq for America&#039;s security and safety of the world!&quot; 
What offense and insult? America violated the borders of Iraq to help secure the borders of America? Iraq is being slaughtered and Iraqis cannot sleep from fear but Americans stay safe? Iraqi children sleep on empty stomach, Iraqi woman can not reach hospital and her baby born dead while America encouraged its nation to grow for the glory of America!

Bush you are the president of the greatest country in the world; you have sent the world calls for fighting terrorism?
Muntazar responded, Bush you are the terrorist who destroyed my nation and my country. 
Iraq neither a sacrifice nor offering for America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a woman from Iraq. My soul and spirit are deeply wounded and traumatized by occupation and the destruction of my country by America.</p>
<p>I believe you Americans heard about the event of hurl a pair of shoes on the face of Bush by Muntazar the journalist, but this man is a human being as well please don&#8217;t forget that.</p>
<p> What you heard is only part of the story. Through your media you will never get the whole picture. You know only a tiny part &#8220;the overt story&#8221; but the covert story of the war crimes, occupation and destruction of a state and traumatizing millions of people constitute the bulk of the story.<br />
It is a black spot and stigma in the repetition of America.</p>
<p>I will tell you the hidden part of the shoe story!<br />
Muntazar as an Iraqi suffered a lot from the shameful strategist of America in handling Iraq after toppling Saddam&#8217;s regime, bad security, and harsh destruction of the country. Muntazar as an Iraqi has observed rivers of blood in the streets of Baghdad, more than million Iraqi were killed, two million widow women, about five million orphans, five million refugees, hundred thousands of best professionals and scholars were either killed, kidnapped or fled the country, loss of basic needs and many more!</p>
<p>Muntazer himself was kidnapped few months ago and his family had to pay ransom for getting him back to life.</p>
<p>Bush and his administration come to Iraq at any time they want and not necessarily by invitation or with the consent of the Government of Iraq.<br />
 What a moment?  Muntazer the victim finds him self face to face with his  executioner! Hearing the arrogance and provocation when Bush said:<br />
&#8220;I took the war resolution on Iraq for America&#8217;s security and safety of the world!&#8221;<br />
What offense and insult? America violated the borders of Iraq to help secure the borders of America? Iraq is being slaughtered and Iraqis cannot sleep from fear but Americans stay safe? Iraqi children sleep on empty stomach, Iraqi woman can not reach hospital and her baby born dead while America encouraged its nation to grow for the glory of America!</p>
<p>Bush you are the president of the greatest country in the world; you have sent the world calls for fighting terrorism?<br />
Muntazar responded, Bush you are the terrorist who destroyed my nation and my country.<br />
Iraq neither a sacrifice nor offering for America.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith B</title>
		<link>http://codepink.org/blog/2009/03/is-shoe-throwing-a-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-1578</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with al-Zaidi&#039;s points, Freedom of Speech allows him to throw shoes at people.

What kind of message does that send about using violence against anyone, even someone as lowly as George H.W. Bush?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with al-Zaidi&#8217;s points, Freedom of Speech allows him to throw shoes at people.</p>
<p>What kind of message does that send about using violence against anyone, even someone as lowly as George H.W. Bush?</p>
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